How refreshing to hear another conversation from smart, scholarly women with deep integrity and purchase one the social and political moment. Love this podcast already! Fascinating to learn about Kate and her very important research on the insidious turn in the work of welfare, not-for-profits, environmentalism, and other areas that myself, a lifelong leftie, once stood behind passionately. Really value the point about the decline in trust, it was well explored from the experience of the personal to the political - nothing less than the death of democracy itself. I related to Kate's story of bewilderment, fear and shock from watching the behaviour of friends and colleagues from the vantage of being part of the 5% who stood up to and declined participating in the mandate. Love your point Petra that it's one thing to know about social psych experiemts and something altogether to live it. I agree we need to have a proper conversation about what happened to heal divisions in families, neighbourhoods, clubs and friendship groups, workplaces etc...
Wonderful conversation. Thank you, Petra and Kate. The issues discussed here should be at the centre of public debate leading up to the May 3rd election. Our media will ensure they are not. We should fight to push them there.
Mental health is an incredibly abused term. Late last year, young people in the Blue Mountains where I live, received targeted mail celebrating the expanding number of mental health clinics. Our Federal member, Susan Templeman, thought this was proof of her effectiveness. To me it is a sign of failure and this woman's fatuous self-absorption.
In your conversation you pushed back on the idea of the larrikin Australian. A book by Michael Duffy on early Australia makes a similar observation:
"Because New South Wales was set up as large prison-cum-government department, government played an important role in the society that developed, and that has continued until today. We are on the whole not a nation that prides itself on self-reliance but one that values it citizens’ right to persuade government to intervene in and improve most areas of life”.
Covid exposed this so clearly. I thought all we needed to do was remove a few bad actors from Government and all would be well. This belief in the goodness of government is a defining feature of the left in Australia. It makes all of us unwilling to "cross the floor". It makes us all complicit in the Fabian ruse. Those who did cross the floor by resisting government overreach in the form of mRNA / AZ poison, were not merely thrown out of the party but were deemed unfit for society. The Tavistockian behavioural psychology that outfits like our Federal Government's BETA unit apply then pushed us out.
While this was serious, I could not help but laugh at the stupidity of people who missed the significance of what was happening. These brave left freedom fighters just did what they were told.
I wonder whether we can get any of these people to watch this interview? For the better part, they appear unaware that anything important has happened. It didn't happen to them.
Warren, thanks for your excellent comment! You’re right these issues ought to be on the agenda. Instead, they’ll be scrupulously ignored. Most people are completely unaware of ‘philanthrocapitalism’, and the ones in power who do are keeping it that way. Indeed, likely profiting from it, directly in their own pockets. It’s insidious.
I ‘joked’ recently that it’s easier for a young person to get a diagnosis than girlfriend/boyfriend. The mental health industrial complex is expanding its tentacles into everything diagnosing and medicating misery but doing nothing to stop it. The smugness of your local MP shows that the rot goes to the core.
While this is global, you’re right to point to national flavours. The Australian psyche is defined by being a prison colony. We took to lockdowns like a duck to water and I suspect this do-gooder cum jailer is all through the welfare and environmental industrial complexes. ‘It’s for your own good’, you know?
How refreshing to hear another conversation from smart, scholarly women with deep integrity and purchase one the social and political moment. Love this podcast already! Fascinating to learn about Kate and her very important research on the insidious turn in the work of welfare, not-for-profits, environmentalism, and other areas that myself, a lifelong leftie, once stood behind passionately. Really value the point about the decline in trust, it was well explored from the experience of the personal to the political - nothing less than the death of democracy itself. I related to Kate's story of bewilderment, fear and shock from watching the behaviour of friends and colleagues from the vantage of being part of the 5% who stood up to and declined participating in the mandate. Love your point Petra that it's one thing to know about social psych experiemts and something altogether to live it. I agree we need to have a proper conversation about what happened to heal divisions in families, neighbourhoods, clubs and friendship groups, workplaces etc...
Wonderful conversation. Thank you, Petra and Kate. The issues discussed here should be at the centre of public debate leading up to the May 3rd election. Our media will ensure they are not. We should fight to push them there.
Mental health is an incredibly abused term. Late last year, young people in the Blue Mountains where I live, received targeted mail celebrating the expanding number of mental health clinics. Our Federal member, Susan Templeman, thought this was proof of her effectiveness. To me it is a sign of failure and this woman's fatuous self-absorption.
In your conversation you pushed back on the idea of the larrikin Australian. A book by Michael Duffy on early Australia makes a similar observation:
"Because New South Wales was set up as large prison-cum-government department, government played an important role in the society that developed, and that has continued until today. We are on the whole not a nation that prides itself on self-reliance but one that values it citizens’ right to persuade government to intervene in and improve most areas of life”.
Covid exposed this so clearly. I thought all we needed to do was remove a few bad actors from Government and all would be well. This belief in the goodness of government is a defining feature of the left in Australia. It makes all of us unwilling to "cross the floor". It makes us all complicit in the Fabian ruse. Those who did cross the floor by resisting government overreach in the form of mRNA / AZ poison, were not merely thrown out of the party but were deemed unfit for society. The Tavistockian behavioural psychology that outfits like our Federal Government's BETA unit apply then pushed us out.
While this was serious, I could not help but laugh at the stupidity of people who missed the significance of what was happening. These brave left freedom fighters just did what they were told.
I wonder whether we can get any of these people to watch this interview? For the better part, they appear unaware that anything important has happened. It didn't happen to them.
Warren, thanks for your excellent comment! You’re right these issues ought to be on the agenda. Instead, they’ll be scrupulously ignored. Most people are completely unaware of ‘philanthrocapitalism’, and the ones in power who do are keeping it that way. Indeed, likely profiting from it, directly in their own pockets. It’s insidious.
I ‘joked’ recently that it’s easier for a young person to get a diagnosis than girlfriend/boyfriend. The mental health industrial complex is expanding its tentacles into everything diagnosing and medicating misery but doing nothing to stop it. The smugness of your local MP shows that the rot goes to the core.
While this is global, you’re right to point to national flavours. The Australian psyche is defined by being a prison colony. We took to lockdowns like a duck to water and I suspect this do-gooder cum jailer is all through the welfare and environmental industrial complexes. ‘It’s for your own good’, you know?
And you might find this interesting on the commodification of nature
https://warrenross.substack.com/p/katoomba-the-us-state-department